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Most professional staff around here, for example, are fine with students addressing them by their first names. Magdeburg), Prof. Hans-Olaf Henkel, honorary doctor and senior advisor to the Bank of America), Prof. Sabine Remdisch, Vice President of the Leuphana Universität Lüneburg and responsible for the "Life-long Learning" department,), Heinz-Gerhard Wente (CHRO of Continental AG) and Dr. Wilfried Prewo (chief executive officer of the Chamber of Industry and Commerce [IHK] in Hanover). Consultant ophthalmologist. But if that kind of thing is normal on your campus, or if you’re in the university founded by Thomas Jefferson and use Mr. or Ms. in an egalitarian spirit, then by all means follow along. I just follow the small cues, and the more senior person is normally the one who has to take the initiative in increasing the familiarity. I’m John. Senckenberganlage 28 60325 Frankfurt am Main Phone +49 69 92915-0 Fax +49 69 92915-12 Email At Georgia Tech, roughly half of them called me by my first name. Last post 30 Nov 09, 19:49: If I'm talking to someone in a business context and I've never met the person before, should… 8 Replies: Dr. med. Christoph Renner. 5,763 14 14 silver badges 34 34 bronze badges. I find it unprofessional when some students refer to some of my colleagues as “Mrs.” or “Ms.” instead of Professor or Dr. Do you mean ‘technically a Miss’, like Miss Maggie Smith? SHT SHT. Still waiting for a chance to give a seminar in Sweden! Dr. rer. Mr Jonathan Clarke. Mr Dr? Margaret, I know you’re p*ssed off (your censor wouldn’t allow me to write that with an ‘i’, by the way) about the “Mrs.” thing, but that’s so firmly established now with Deutsche Luftwaffe that you’re unlikely to change it. At the truly elite institutions, they just call each other by their first names. I wonder if it is more laid back in general over here in Australia. She can take her husband’s name if she chooses. There was a Seinfeld about that, though I forget how it worked out for George. Many of our students are the first members of their family to attend university, as was I. Munich, Germany : Scientific Co-Director of the Center for Entrepreneurial and Financial Studies (CEFS) at the Technical University of Munich . Or email me and I’ll post it for you. she remembered me and was able to name some of my classmates and we reminisced about many of her colleagues. Specialist in Medical Oncology, Hematology, and General Internal Medicine. i found an article online and they were approaching their 90th birthday. with a full stop after. Is it a undergraduate specific culture ? Deutsches Aktieninstitut e.V. Consultant ophthalmologist. (Prof. Who? Do you follow campus convention? to remain so in English, but they would be Prof. in English. Apparently Paul uses that too. ” Jeremy Fox 8 years ago The campus convention at Calgary is for students to call their profs “Dr.” Very rarely, I’ve heard students who’ve worked in a prof’s lab for several years call the prof by his or her first name. In general, I go with Dr. X (in conversation and in email) until the professor indicates otherwise by informing me or signing an email with his/her first name. “Kirsty Brown or McTavish”. Others, though, insist on the “Prof. There isn’t much any other option, considering we work so closely together in the field, and at the field station, that’s what everyone else calls me. Joachim Englisch is Professor of Public Law and Tax Law and Director of the Institute for Tax Law at the Westfälische Wilhelms-Universität Münster. The culture at my college is more casual, and aren’t stuck up on “titles.” I find it rather asinine when an instructor interrupts another to make a political correction of “dr, or professor. The campus convention at Calgary is for students to call their profs “Dr.” Very rarely, I’ve heard students who’ve worked in a prof’s lab for several years call the prof by his or her first name. Prof. Dr. med. And sometimes various other inappropriate forms of address. I have a PhD, so I ask them to call me Professor or Dr., or Bill, whatever they are comfortable with, other than Mr., because that would just be inappropriate. Englisch-Deutsch-Übersetzungen für The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde [Robert Louis Stevenson] im Online-Wörterbuch (Deutschwörterbuch). I think about how to do it well, but execution is something else. I would ask them what they would like to be called. I co-supervised a student that would call me ‘Thiago’, but call the other supervisor (older and an established reference in the field) ‘Dr. 1998 Max-Kade-Professor, University of Bloomington, Indiana, USA. Member of the Supervisory Board of Munich Reinsurance Company since 3 January 2013 . pol. In their cases, no disrespect was intended, but no respect was intended either. (on the other hand, I can, when required wield formality like a weapon). Ansprachen wie Sir oder Gentleman verwenden Sie eher in der amerikanischen Ansprache in einem gehobenen Umfeld wie einem Luxushotel oder einer Luxusgastronomie. 1996/97 Visiting Professor, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel. medic. But again, I have never been to undergraduate college in the US. On a related note, I chaired a thesis defense recently, and introduced the committee as “Dr. Thanks. At UNBC, some professors like it more formal while others like it casual. Long standing expertise in high-dose chemotherapy, stem cell … It seems odd to me that BA allow non-sex-specific terms. Do you get called “Mrs.” more often at Michigan than when you were at Georgia Tech? It’s mighty fascinating things like this. If I would START using titles, I’d be the weirdo over here. When I moved to the Northeast for my masters, everyone went by Professor (to undergrads), which seemed so formal to me. 73 1 1 silver badge 5 5 bronze badges. The majority of corresponding authors do have Ph.D.s., and so the journals were just assuming everyone does, figuring that anyone who doesn’t won’t mind the mistake. To the students, you’re the expert with the knowledge, and you’re the one who is assigning the grades. As another professor at the school where Terry teaches, I have no problem looking unprofessional. I am considering covering how to address professors at the beginning of Intro Bio the next time I teach it. What do students call you? I like the collegiality that this implies, but there are definitely some problems with this approach also. **Don’t get me started on Hogwarts school though……! He was first appointed as Clinical Senior Lecturer and Consultant Colorectal Surgeon at St Mary’s Hospital and Imperial College in 2004. I did my undergrad at a UC, and most professors preferred to be called by their first name (I remember one explicitly stating not to call him Dr. although he was one). Perhaps this philosophy could set me up for failure on teaching evaluations as a woman professor—which, if I understand correctly, seems to demand a stronger presence of authority—but so far it’s been OK. To me, the first name suggests equality, which is what I want to promote, and a title suggests hierarchical authority, which I don’t. Here’s why I interrupt the conversation with students to talk about titles. I notice that in Germany, basically all the professors are addressed as Prof. Dr. XXX, say Prof. Dr. Mueller. I definitely got called “ma’am” more at Georgia Tech. Most profs tend to go by their first name once you know them, and I’d say it’s mostly an even split between first name and Dr./Professor X in class situations. I cringe a bit at “Professor,” flatly refuse “Dr” and its connotation with medical expertise by 95% of the population, and so I am a bit stuck. I generally start the semester by telling all of my classes to call me Katie and that if I ask them to start calling me Dr., they know that they’ve done something wrong and have gotten on my bad side. However, I am more bothered by how many students will call female professors “Miss,” even after specifically being asked not to. But even older students struggle with knowing what is, what I call too honest. If they still feel more comfortable calling me Dr., then that is their choice and I will answer. Turns out that students call everyone in the department, and most across campus, by their first names. Dear Professor Dr.-Ing. Explanation: Preporuka Agencije za znanost i visoko obrazovanje je da se titule ne prevode, kao što ne prevodimo ni AG u d.o.o. In the UK, the us of the full stop appears to be ok to use either Dr or Dr. I’m a student taking an undergraduate class with a graduate student teaching it. Dr. h.c. Weißgott >... A 2007-08-03: I remember another professor of mine, A 2007-08-02: btw: a professor of mine once forb... » Im Forum nach professor of suchen » Im Forum nach professor of fragen: Recent Searches. Kratica ostaje kakva jest, a ako baš moramo prevesti zbog objašnjenja, to može biti kao opaska. Anyway, thanks for the thoughts on this, the useful discussion that followed, and all the other incredibly helpful posts! Also, when Deb and I flew to the US in May this year with Continental, the only options were Mr. and Mrs. (and as you know, Deb isn’t a Mrs.). I really like it, as it emphasizes the point of scientific community and the students being part of it. And if the passenger was identified just as Dr. or Prof., you couldn’t tell if it was a man or a woman. Meanwhile, ’round my parts, the stray new student who comes in for advising is more like than not to call me Mr. McGlynn. In good old times, there was actively used T–V distinction (as I guess in Swedish too) but that’s pretty much dropped out of use. (Also, I want to be as approachable as possible, because open communication is so important while doing international field research. If you don’t do this, then you’ll just look weird, in a way that distracts from things that matter. Do you like your campus convention? I’ve found it puzzling and have tried to figure out why for several years. In Sweden, where I live and work, titles are hardly ever used. I think that a lot of freshman just don’t realize that I have a doctorate, and that Dr. Duffy is the appropriate way to address me. Is that correct? I also try, to the best of my ability, to provide them with something worth their investment of money and time. But then I realized that this was just journals erring on the side of caution. It’s too early to know if it will be different here at Michigan. And some also have established nicknames (which especially is the case with Swedish-speaking faculty). I have always felt equally comfortable with Staffan or Dr. Lindgren. So on days when I teach, I kick it up a notch. I commonly (scratch that — virtually exclusively!) Dr. iur. When I accept new undergrads to do research in my lab, I include in an email (usually the one welcoming them to the lab) that most people in the lab call me Meg or Meghan, but that some undergrads feel more comfortable calling me Dr. Duffy or Professor Duffy, and I leave it up to them. However, IATA rules say that a ticket must also identify the sex of the passenger (or should that be “gender” in newspeak? I make an effort to refer to them as Dr. X and Dr. Y in conversation with other students who are not part of the lab. I’ve been thinking about “Professor Denise” … hah. It’s great to read about how title culture differs between institutions and countries. Dr. Dr. Dr. hc” sort of title, which simply looks childish in English. [Translate to Englisch:] Prof. Dr. Thomas Fischer; Intranet; Library; KU.Campus; ILIAS; Campus map; en. share | improve this question | follow | edited Dec 17 '17 at 14:18. Sir I’ll always remember that one guy from college who always had students call him by his first name. Thanks for this guide! Ms Victoria Cohen. Most of the instructors are from industry, and their titles are officially Lecturer. Dr I often write Mrs. or Mr. with the full stop (period!) I am not a Mrs. Camp 2. Last post 25 May 07, 20:12: Könnte jemand mir sagen, was die Unterschied zwischen Dr. med. It was my first day in master’s degree and I was used to calling my teachers “Maam” and “Sir” in my undergrad, so I called my teacher “Sir”.Though my teacher did not have any negative reaction when I addressed him in that way, I realize it’s better to use “Dr.” just as how my classmates do. You probably arrived to this page from a search trying to find out what to call your university instructor. You are merely recording the outcome of what the student does and doesn’t do, but you are the arbiter. I’m comfortable with it and I’d go as far as saying I encourage it for a particular reason. I. I completely agree, especially the tenure part. I do. If an undergraduate emails you – and you reply – do you sign it Dr. McGlynn? My experience at Calgary is the same as Terry. Oh, the Mrs. thing drives me batty too. h.c. Ann-Kristin Achleitner . Wie sagt man auf Englisch…? Do you sleep? I’ve also had this exact conversation several times: But that’s very unusual. That’s why in the local Scottish papers, you’ll often see court reports about somebody being hauled up before the Sheriff and referred to as e.g. I adopted this practice myself as a handling editor. Yes, without question, I am the leader of the class: I set the rules, tone, and expectations, I provide grades, and I have absolute dictatorial power as long as my decisions fall within the college’s policy and my syllabus. Research Assistant to Prof. Dr. R. Hickey, University of Duisburg-Essen. When they get comfortable around some of us, they slip into that habit. I stay professional but also get to know my students as individuals.). First-name familiarity would certainly be unusual among my peers. I recently ran into an odd situation. (My chair asks me if I sleep, too.) Should you always go by Dr. when you’re dealing with undergraduates on campus? Frankfurt Office. - he is NOT entitled to call himself MD, PhD or whatever, even though these might be the ENglish speaking equivalents. Once I’ve worked in their labs for a while, the professors have nearly all asked me to call them by their first names. Which ones? Around here, students call you Professor. Christoph Renner. Deutsches Wörterbuch von Jacob und Wilhelm Grimm, Foreign law translations page of the Institute for Transnational Law, Texas, Foreign Law Translations, Institute for Transnational Law, University of Texas at Austin, Henry Brooke: Musings, Memories and Miscellanea, Eidgenössisches Département für auswärtige Angelegenheiten EDA, From words to deeds: translation & the law. Afterthoughts: Robin, yes, of course, I had forgotten that about Scotland, despite Donoghue (M’Alister) v. Stevenson (I suppose ‘Pauper’ means she was on legal aid). I think that it’s because when their professors aren’t around, they are using our last names to refer to all of us. Email: I like everyone to call me Dawn, but I explain to my students that they need to be very careful about extending this informality to everyone, and to be aware of the hierarchies. Ich … 5 Replies: Dr. or Mr. Dr. They have to deal with secondary education has given them and they’re workplaces for people as any workplace. Love the comment string!!!! So I’ve never had occasion to correct a student’s usage–the usage is almost completely unvarying. In English, you would just write Dr., without any Mr. or Mrs., but Robin says the airlines have to indicate sex. So, I mostly view it as just that they don’t know better, but it does bother me that students seem more likely to call male faculty “Dr”. First names are commonly used, particularly after students have completed their first year. J Schmidt presumably obtained his qualifications in Germany, hence he is entitled to call himself Prof. Dr. Med. I don’t get bothered when they continue to use it, though, because it’s so engrained that I realize it’s hard for them to change. Isn't it kind of redundant? Mr. Prof. Dr. The primary difference is years in the business. Is it a culture in teaching oriented university? I’m an undergrad at the University of Oregon. Im amerikanischen Englisch oder den „Mr“ ohne Punkt in der britischen Variante. That’s a different issue, but it made me think of this. Either Abbreviations Dr or Dr. can be used to designate a person who has doctorate-level degree. Rev. (The truth is that students who choose to use “Mrs.” probably are not aware that this requires an assumption about marital status, which is a whole lesson in itself.) Evlyn’, even if we were all in the same conversation. Hah! Professor Dr Ulrich Reinhardt, born in 1970, is the Scientific Head at the BAT-Foundation for Future Studies and holds a professorship for empirical future research at the University of applied science Westcoast / Heide. Note that although it is normal to address a doctor or professor as “Herr X”in German “Mr. If you book a Lufthansa flight online, this is your choice of titles: Mr. You could go by Dr. B. I recently booked on BA and their choices were: Mr This does not depend on which institution you work at. We want to be the Rev. Can I be in your class? I’ve never succeeded in getting an undergrad to call me by my first name, not even ones who knew me well and had worked in my lab for a long time. Being casual is fine, though. That may be wishful thinking of course! A useful strategy is to introduce yourself in the first lecture with some educational background — something like: “I got my doctorate at University of X; my area of specialization is Y,” etc. Chris: I’m very taken with Miss. They should then pick up on the proper form of address without you having to insist on being called “Dr.” Or you could simply write your name on the syllabus in the way you want to be addressed. I think normally full or only last names are used, except in a setting where first names can be used without confusion. Oh, OK, maybe the first a couple of times. At Calgary, freshmen sometimes call female profs “Mrs.” (and perhaps call male profs “Mr.”; I don’t know). If you think you are above anyone who is getting an education, you are out of touch. Robin: My censor is me. In English, you would just write Dr., without any Mr. or Mrs., but Robin says the airlines have to indicate sex. Prof. Dr. Wessler on Researchgate. professors etiquette germany. Leadership, however, does not necessarily mean superiority: ultimately, I lead the class in order to best serve my students. Though normally there’s ample opportunities to get easily familiar, like department’s christmas party or saunas in field courses. Fox”. A name is really a minor thing, but to some people the title is really important because it’s obvious. because I believe many Americans would be surprised at anything less. Michele: But at least BA has options that would apply to me: Miss or Ms (or Dr). Claire Daniel. English Deutsch Thomas Fischer Professorial Chair History of Latin America. Learn how your comment data is processed. Consultant ocular oncologist. The only automatic position you get is that you have been selected to give certain course (so the students can expect a certain level). und Dr. rer. I do wear a shirt with a collar (and buttons), but not one you would wear with a tie. Oddly, I tell my students that I prefer to be called either “Dr” or by my first name, and they are much less comfortable using my first name than my last name. But Capt, Dr, Prof, and Rev are all gender-neutral, and I don’t see a checkbox or any other way to specify gender, so I’m not 100% convinced about the IATA thing. Sounds great! Prof medic. I mean, everyone is technically a Ms or a Ms., I would have thought, unless they’re a Mr or a Mr., of course. It varies from institution to institution. Robin: ‘technically she’s a Ms.’? Lord British and Irish Legal Information Institute. Silva’. Never knowingly underfed. Well, I never claimed to be a fine teacher, and that label hasn’t been applied to me that often. Only Dr. is correct as it is an abbreviation. If students would call me, or my colleagues, Dr. or Professor we would mostly feel very uncomfortable. Interesting topic. I also got called “Mrs” at Georgia Tech, but I probably get called “Mrs” more often here at Michigan. Then we don’t need to bother with e.g. Having said that, I try to make students comfortable when interacting with me, and if they are comfortable calling me by my first name, they are easier to communicate with or at least more likely to feel at ease asking me for help. I’d be fine with Calgary students calling me by my first name, and I’ve tried to get them to do so, without success. Christopher Leak . Dr. Mrs. However, in other parts of the world, only Prof. would be sufficient, since a non-doctor can never be a University professor. One of my first blog posts was about this: … as you’d expect. How many? I get “Mr.” all of the time from students. The variation from Mr. Dr. to Dr. Mrs. is funny. They want me to treat the students in the class as equal to one another, and they appreciate that I respect their time, concerns and priorities as seriously as I would expect to be treated by others. On 13.11 the official welcome of the new students took place by the President of the University Fresenius of Applied Sciences and Managing Director of the Studienkolleg NRW Prof. Dr. Tobias Engelsleben in the premises of the University Fresenius of Applied Sciences Cologne. Using Ms. is not a good idea because it’s overlooking the fact that your professor might have a Ph.D.). prof. dr. sc. Dr.”, this is not done in English). I would really like to drop the titles, too. Of course, in the context of working with my research students on campus with other students, such as if they were to take a class with me, they call me what all the other students call me. If you are worried because you aren’t positive if your professor has a Ph.D., then you can just use “Professor” in the United States, but nobody will be insulted if you just call your professor “Doctor,” and you wouldn’t be violating some secret code of conduct by calling your professor Doctor. However, in America the de facto is to always use the period / full stop — it’s Dr. in America! I do usually allow Prof.Dr. Required fields are marked *. Hartmut Wessler is Professor in the Institute for Media and Communication Studies and Principal Investigator at the Mannheim Center for European Social Research (MZES). I’d like to think (though have no proof) that a less formal campus structure might encourage these students to see that their tutors are not special, super-human individuals and that they too can excel in their studies if they work hard and engage with the topic. The latter is a mouthful, surely. The only people I’ve ever called “Dr.” are medical doctors, and so it will probably always feel a little odd to me to have other people calling me “Dr.”. From what I’ve seen and heard I suspect that UK universities are more informal than those in North America and certainly those in other parts of Europe. Remembering an Arab and a Jewish Past ; Natasha Solomons: Reading from Mr Rosenblum's List and The Gallery of Vanished Husbands; Dr. Gerd Bayer: Guest Lecture on "Eastern Promises" Werner Loval: We Were Europeans; Prof. Hugo Hamilton: Reading … Of course, once you have tenure, you could do whatever the heck you want. When I’m mailing the undergrads researching in my own lab, I use Terry. Lady If I’m going for informality, which isn’t often, I use dr mcglynn. This happened less frequently, though on occasion, at private universities with students coming from backgrounds with family members who went to college. I’m only just getting used to being referred to as “professor” or “prof.” by students, whereas for colleagues in other countries it’s the norm. Is it really that creepy? Good manners and courtesy are an important soft skill, and not being taught nearly explicitly enough – as I say to students, your manners could lose you a job, so learn to mind your ps and qs, even if I don;t care what you call me…. Area of expertise: Diagnosis and treatment of benign and malignant blood disorders including lymphoma, myeloma and leukemias. I’m still relatively young, so when I teach upper division classes, especially field based classes where we are in a cramped van for several hours at a time, it can be tempting to cross that line into the too familiar territory. Yes, we know you went to graduate school, but recognize you are just another individual. If you promote an environment in which you are equal to the students, then that means they’ll think that they are equally qualified to evaluate their own performance. I use it in only highly formal situations. To be honest, it doesn’t bother me in the least, and while teaching in Canada, I was actually startled the first time I was called ‘Professor Silva’. Sonja: I used to think this Mr./Mrs. I have blocked that word because of comment spam. “Mr.”, “Dr.”and “Prof.”(do not write “Prof. But by sophmore year they’ve pretty much learned to call everyone “Dr.”. Miss Carol Cunningham. This is of course a cultural thing, and I can see if the standard is to use Professor, then if you’re not approached with that title it may seem weird. If they need to get someone’s attention, then they will use first names, unless the faculty in question is older and/or ‘famous’. I also think it often indicates structural sexism that needs to be addressed, especially if students are making assumptions about marital status.

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